View Full Version : THANKS--SWING THAT BAT
05-13-2002, 02:18 PM
Thanks to someone on this fourm (I do not remember who) I have been shooting down the first base line, towards home plate, at my son's t-ball games. Talk about some great shots! I also have some great shots of him hitting the ball off the t. I have been shooting at 1000, 1500, and 2000 with fuji superia 400. I am really stopping the action! Here is my question, how much do I need to slow down to capture the swing of the bat? I want it to be a little blurry to show the motion. Maybe even have the ball show some movement also. Remember, this is five-year-old t-ball. I have been shooting hand held but I do have a tri-pod I can use. Thanks for any help.
05-13-2002, 03:05 PM
Wagonwheel: Try some shots at 1/60, 1/125, and 1/250. The 125 and 250 settings will stop most body motion blur but will show significant ball and bat movement. At 1/60 you may get enough body and head movement to spoil facial sharpness and some of the neat expressions when kids are trying to hit the ball off the planet. Work on your own timing as bat/ball contact is over in a split second. One of my most prized photographic efforts was catching my son in a sequence of shots at a high school game hitting a ball out of the park. The action was cool, but the expressions of determination and then satisfaction as he saw the result are priceless. It's a neat shot and worth burning up a lot of film if you can get it . ><>
05-13-2002, 03:13 PM
It sounds like a reply I would have given as for a shere to stand. If it wasnt me i do not mean to steal someone else's credit.<BR>
With a longer lens, say a 200 or 300, slower speeds may require the use of a monopod or tripod to help out. You may not need one at all but if you do not feel to confident about hand holding use one. <BR>
And good luck shooting.
05-13-2002, 05:15 PM
A monopod will make your life much easier. Aside from holding the camera steadier than you will, with out it, it will keep your arms from getting tired.
05-13-2002, 05:32 PM
Also a monopod will be easy to get off the feild!!<BR>
05-13-2002, 06:22 PM
Try using 100 or 200 speed film. By using a slower film your shutter speed will have to be slower if using the same f stop. One of the above posts mentions using 1/250 and 1/125 sec. shutter speed and they are absolutely right. Try several things and see what works for you.<BR>
05-13-2002, 06:43 PM
I would go with the slower 100 or 200 film if you have bright daylight or light overcast. A monopod would also be a good idea. A shutterspeed of 125th to 250th should do. 125th because the speed of kids is a lot less. You may even be able at 60th. Here are some examples from an earlier post. They are the majors but most of the concept is the same:<BR>
Once again I am forced to give proof that I know what I am talking about. What you will see is a Rangers game vs. the Royals shot on Sept. 9,2001 It was an overcast day most of the game. The game started at 2:05 in the afternoon. I used Kodak 200 print film. If I was in brighter light and used 400 film I may have been able to bump the shutterspeed up 2 or 3. If you look between the pitcher and home plate you will see the baseball frozen in between. Just a little blurr to show it's moving. <BR>
<A HREF=http://home1.gte.net/rmax/rangers1.jpg" TARGET='_blank'>http://home1.gte.net/rmax/rangers1.jpg</A><BR>
The next shot is of a batter at home plate. Notice the little blurr in the bat for movement. Notice there is very minimal shadows. Only major shadow is under the catcher.<BR>
<A HREF=http://home1.gte.net/rmax/rangersgame.jpg" TARGET='_blank'>http://home1.gte.net/rmax/rangersgame.jpg</A><BR>
<A HREF=http://home1.gte.net/rmax/rangers2.jpg" TARGET='_blank'>http://home1.gte.net/rmax/rangers2.jpg</A><BR>
<A HREF=http://home1.gte.net/rmax/rangers3.jpg" TARGET='_blank'>http://home1.gte.net/rmax/rangers3.jpg</A><BR>
There is a major difference between night and day baseball. <BR>
I have shot Football Professionally. Baseball is a hobby for fun.<BR>
Please pardon the tone of the response I was in a debate about what you can and cannot do in this situation with another member of the forum.<BR>
05-14-2002, 04:17 AM
Thank you all very much. I will be back out there Saturday morning giving it the old college try. I will let you know how it turns out. Thanks again.
05-14-2002, 06:19 PM
Wagonwheel: Do use the tripod or some other stabilizer. If you are using a zoom in the 300mm range, camera shake considerations are significant at the shutter speeds you will be using. A monopod would be ideal, but short of buying one you can use your tripod with the legs unspread or just extend one leg. It makes it easier to move quickly if you have to get out of the way for a play. If you are outside the fence then spread the legs and fire away. ><>
05-16-2002, 09:04 AM
You'll have to experiment more with older kids.<BR>
Different kids/players have different bat speeds.<BR>
I would write down the settings after you shoot the players. Get to know what works on your kids/grandkids...whatever. <BR>
By the way if your shots turn out good, I'm claiming full credit ! If they're not good, it was bad advice from the others ! /ibb/skins/default/emoticons/biggrin.gif <BR>
05-16-2002, 01:37 PM
A couple weeks ago, I took some pictures of my HS varsity team. Since my 200mm zoom has a max aperture of 5.6, and it was a cloudy day, I got some decent pictures. I had to use 125 shutter with 400 film. The head and body movement were frozen, but the bat and ball were blurry. The bat made a small come of multicolors, it was pretty interesting. <BR>
Have fun with experimenting,<BR>
05-17-2002, 10:48 PM
Thanks again for the advice. I was looking forward to shooting tomorrow. However, the big rain storm we are expecting tonight has caused the game to be cancelled. It may be next year before I get to try for a blurry bat. Oh well, soccer starts again in the Fall. I did get some excellent T-ball shots this year. Thanks again.
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