Man, I want to like Picasa. How could it be bad? Free, supposedly supports IPTC, great search interface. Problem is the IPTC support is spotty. It supports captions, but not much else directly. Appears the "labels" are stored in proprietary database rather than in the images.
I mainly want an image management program that won't lock me in forever, ie, data stored and accessed via standard EXIF or IPTC tags.
I just bought PSP X so I figured I'd try the Photo Album component. It's a combination of user friendliness with decent power user features. Picasa confirms that the data in PSPPA actually write to IPTC tags.
Thanks for the responses, guys, but I think they have a similar problem with where the actual data about images is stored. I would like data about each image to be stored in the image and accessible by any metadata-aware app. Further, I don't like programs that attempt to organize my images their way. I like the way I do it but I need additional capability beyond file management.
EXIF, IPTC and now XMP. Looks like Adobe Bridge supports XMP which is ostensibly the next gen of IPTC or at least an evolution along those lines. Then I see all this about XMP sidecare files and such. This pixvue program looks promising.
It looks like either Paint Shop Photo Album or Picasa WILL serve my needs.
PSPA has better organization of keywords. Picasa does in fact support IPTC keywords, not in the "labels" feature, which would seem intuitive, but rather in the Keywords option in the View menu. It doesn't seem to keep track of key words, so if you want to use common categories like 3Stars or names of our esteemed canines and felines, you seem to have to retype that info in Picasa.
Picasa is a smaller footprint proggy than PSPA which I like! You can also easily order images from the Wally World and many other online photo places, which I like!
I am dissappointed but partially ok with the seemingly exclusive option of organization by date that Picasa does. I can browse folders like I want to in PSPA. Can't see that in Picasa except with only one level deep (highest level folder name - ugh).
Any other Picasa users out there have any suggestions?
The whole point of it only going one folder deep is that any other organizing will be done with labels. You can stick more than one label on a picture but you can't put a picture in more than one folder without duplicating it. I just let it put the pictures in the appropriately dated folders on import and then further organize it in Windows. Picassa will then relocate it but not move it.
If it worked that way with keywords, that would be sweet! With labels, that's for Picasa's eyes only afaik. Adding keywords from other proggies would be a problem in that you don't know what keywords are out there to search from, unlike labels in Picasa and keywords in PSPA.
Going to play with PSPA more but may end up with hybrid of PSPA and Picassa or Pixvue and Picassa.
I have used Paint Shop Photo Album, in it's many incarnations, since about 1999 when I got my first digital camera. It had a different name then and was a product of Sierra Imaging. Then it was taken over by JASC and given a different name. In a year or two JASC renamed it again to "Paint Shop Photo Album" and the most recent version was #5....with a downloadable patch to version 5.33. Most recently Corel purchased JASC and now the program has been renamed again to Corel Photo Album. There is a new version....#6.
I suggest you try to latch onto a copy of version 5 and then get on the Corel web site and download the update to bring it to 5.33. I purchased version 6 and Corel has messed the program up in more than one area. It is buggy now....locks up every so often. They also reduced the number of photo album templates and....very important to me because I had already cataloged some 14,000 images....Corel changed the extension on all the catalog files so that I could not import my catalog from version 5 over into the new version 6.
I raised the devil with Corel and they finally refunded my money. I am sticking with version 5.33.
I no longer use it for image manipulation BUT I use it for cataloging my images and keeping track of which CD they are on. The program retains thumbnails for you to look at and then tells you which disk to retrieve to find the image file. There are other filing features which I have not used but you may find them useful.
I also use this program as my main printing program. I really like the program and will probably keep using it until I find something that I like better.
Check out Breezebrowser Pro at www.breezebrowser.com. You can download and install a trial version. If you decide you want to buy it (about 80USD) you get an unlock code for the copy you have installed. It does lots of nice things like working with RAW files and will create web galleries from a multitude of easily modified templates.
I haven't had any bugginess with the new PSPPA but maybe haven't used enough to bring it out.
Breezebrowser looks cool, as do ACDSEE and a few others. The ability to easily compare images is cool, like in BB.
The next version of Winders promises to have better metadata management for files. Let's see if MS does it right.
PSPPA has more features, bigger thumbnails than Google Picasa. But Picasa is much faster! And I like the smaller footprint. 28 MB vs 81 MB on disk. Not that I care about space, but just don't want bloatware.
Thanks for the suggestions. Some time I might try ''em out but I find myself liking Picasa more and more, despite that it is limited in some ways.